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we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has always been just your point. i think he was influenced by the idea that, look i'm not sure this is going to work but i'm not prepared not to the do it and see what the consequens are. i'm mo prepared to do in the this case because i've described this as a war of choice... i've described this as a war of necessity, not choice, as iq was characterized a aar choice. >> i think you're absolutely on it and what we tried to do literally in chapter 9 of this book is to describe the mind-set of obama when he was handling time and time again questions relating to afghanistan. for example, in the su
we cannot do that." >> rose: with afghanistan? >> with afghanistan. am i doingin afghanistan gha what lyndon johnson did in vietnam 40 years before. >> rose: my assumption in the surge in part-- and you assume he thinks it has strategic significance and importance there because you don't want afghanistato be a haven for terrism d at the same time when he was going through this there were only, like, 100 members of al qaeda that there. allknow that. my assumption has...
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i want to move on to afghanistan. you had a very interesting piece in "the new york times" in which you said that the administration should take its cues in terms of its withdraw in afghanistan from nixon and kissinger's withdrawal from vietnam. that is not usually looked upon as a model of success. so explain what you meant. >> nixon and kissinger tried to extricate the united states from the war in vietnam. they knew they weren't going to win. they were going to lose. they tried to tiptoe away and leave the local parties to keep fighting by themselves. it almost worked. but after the u.s. got out, the whole house of cards came falling down because congress wouldn't let the government support saigon because the local parties weren't able to defend themselves and so forth. i think essentially, if the obama administration can tiptoe out of the ground combat in afghanistan while continuing to support the regime in kabul and continuing to bash the enemies and so forth, essentially you could get extrication even as essent
i want to move on to afghanistan. you had a very interesting piece in "the new york times" in which you said that the administration should take its cues in terms of its withdraw in afghanistan from nixon and kissinger's withdrawal from vietnam. that is not usually looked upon as a model of success. so explain what you meant. >> nixon and kissinger tried to extricate the united states from the war in vietnam. they knew they weren't going to win. they were going to lose. they...
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troops in afghanistan when the taliban attack. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. a special gathering to tackle america's serious economic problems. key figures from government, business and academia came together this week in chicago for the clinton global might be difference america conference. the event was the brainchild of former president bill clinton. i sat down with him in chicago for a candid interview on the country's debt crisis, the 2012 presidential race, and much more. >> mr. president, thanks very much for joining us. good to be here. first time you've done this as far as the u.s. economy is concerned. normally it's global issues. and i want to get to that, but let's talk about some of the big issues right now. jobs, jobs, jobs. it's a crisis, a game of chicken going on in washington right now between the president, the did democrats on one side, republican leadership on the other side. how big of a deal is this august 2nd deadlin
troops in afghanistan when the taliban attack. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. a special gathering to tackle america's serious economic problems. key figures from government, business and academia came together this week in chicago for the clinton global might be difference america conference. the event was the brainchild of former president bill clinton. i sat down with him in chicago for a candid...
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taxpayer money may be missing in afghanistan. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is here with the details. chris, how is this possible? >> reporter: because of a complete failure of oversight on the parts of the departments of treasury, state and defense, just a complete corruption in afghanistan. look, this federal audit shows that ten years into this war, the u.s. still only has limited visibility over what happens to billions of dollars once we send the money to afghanistan. the inspector general says that makes the money vulnerable not only to fraud but even worse being diverted to insurgents. the u.s. spent more than $70 billion on security and redevelopment in afghanistan, but, again, this audit shows as much as $10 million may be smuggled out of afghanistan every day. how does that happen? whenever afghan government officials leave the country no one checks how much money they are carrying with them. again the audit shows afghan officials have no plans to scan their cash through those electronic currency counters. t
taxpayer money may be missing in afghanistan. our pentagon correspondent chris lawrence is here with the details. chris, how is this possible? >> reporter: because of a complete failure of oversight on the parts of the departments of treasury, state and defense, just a complete corruption in afghanistan. look, this federal audit shows that ten years into this war, the u.s. still only has limited visibility over what happens to billions of dollars once we send the money to afghanistan. the...
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but all these years later, nachison is welcoming the generation from iraq and afghanistan. as we first reported last october, stand down is a three- day campout that's part jobs fair, part health clinic, part sobriety meeting. the name is a military term for the time when a solider can put down his weapon and stop fighting. the homeless go for a shot at redemption. we went to understand why so many people who've served their country find coming home so hard. >> hey, good morning, you guys. how you guys doing? we're going to have a great stand down this year. >> pelley: it's a friday morning in july. jon nachison is greeting his troops, homeless vets and their families who'd waited all night to get in. >> jon nachison: we're going to open the gates. let's do it. >> pelley: they were literally a battalion-- 947 men, women and children. >> good morning, sir. welcome to stand down. we'd like to give you a breakfast bag and something to drink. >> nachison: when people come in, they're instantly transported back to the military, a time when they wore the uniform, where they were
but all these years later, nachison is welcoming the generation from iraq and afghanistan. as we first reported last october, stand down is a three- day campout that's part jobs fair, part health clinic, part sobriety meeting. the name is a military term for the time when a solider can put down his weapon and stop fighting. the homeless go for a shot at redemption. we went to understand why so many people who've served their country find coming home so hard. >> hey, good morning, you...
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it can proje power militarily so in afghanistan and libya. president sarkozy is wanting the g-8 this year but it' only the size of texas and with an economy that's probably the size ofalifnia. >> charlie: yes. how is he doing? president sarkozy. >> we're in a period of track cision, in part because of what happened because of -- who could have been the social es party candidate and wa leading inhe poll in any combination >> charlie: against sarkozy. >> exactly. it's out of the picture. even though tzar -- tzar sarkozy -- >> charlie: at the likely to be the nominee. >> no clue. i would like to see francois who is really smart and funny and not seductive enough for the french people. >> charlie: he was head of the socialist party and his wife, n his wife -- >> father of their four children. >> charlie: she got the nomination. >> right. >> charlie: is she still going to run or not? theye no longetogether and he could be running and she could be running and they were -- >> she would like to run again. but there's another woman in the picture who
it can proje power militarily so in afghanistan and libya. president sarkozy is wanting the g-8 this year but it' only the size of texas and with an economy that's probably the size ofalifnia. >> charlie: yes. how is he doing? president sarkozy. >> we're in a period of track cision, in part because of what happened because of -- who could have been the social es party candidate and wa leading inhe poll in any combination >> charlie: against sarkozy. >> exactly. it's out...
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basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it. marvin, go ahead. >> i agree with you, pat. the relevant point is vietnam was in his point. he did not want to go too far or get trapped in baghdad. this is one of the most fascinating things, you can get in on the act, too. the way one of the presidents after another, vietnam sits there just hanging around and even if you wanted to dump it, you couldn't. >> i asked obama about this a year ago and he maintains he's free of the vietnam. >> i agree with you. he's the one sitting there saying i'm not doing ten years. i'm not doing $1 trillion. it's about vietnam. it's about getting into a steal mate. >> yet, we s
basically, how do you avoid the pitfalls of vietnam in afghanistan. >> he inherited afghanistan and iraq the way nixon inherited vietnam, 535,000 troops in vietnam when he got into the white house. bush i learned the lessons. there was a big push from the neoconservatives to go to baghdad. bush i did that and said this is what everybody signed on for. we are stopping at the iraqi border. he got the lesson right. >> for the record, george w. bush spit out his coffee and wept for it....
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we can't expect america with all its economic and other problems and with afghanistan to pull our chestnuts out of the fire. >> rose: but on the question of nato, secretary gates suggested as much. >> rose: indeed. indeed. witness again, you know, a few weeks of military action on a very small scale in libya... >> rose: and all of a sudden... >> and we're running out of munitions and turning back to the united states as the land of last rest. but look, frankly, the military action in libya which i supported, reluctantly but i supported, i actually a sideshow. the big question is can you turn egypt which had been historically at the heart of islamic culture and scholarship into a model and a beacon for threst of the arab world in. >> rose: and your answer is likely? unlikely? too soon to tell? >> look, i mean, there's amaze pog ten nshl egypt and then a highly educated young people, a strong middle-class, a great sense of history and tradition. but it could all go pear shaped between armyn the one hand which is now proving an unam big rouse friend of liberal democracy and the muslim brotherh
we can't expect america with all its economic and other problems and with afghanistan to pull our chestnuts out of the fire. >> rose: but on the question of nato, secretary gates suggested as much. >> rose: indeed. indeed. witness again, you know, a few weeks of military action on a very small scale in libya... >> rose: and all of a sudden... >> and we're running out of munitions and turning back to the united states as the land of last rest. but look, frankly, the...
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1999 about a vietnam veteran to reeve realize 20 years later, to find myself in the middle of iraq and afghanistan and surrounded by the bravest men and women in all the world, you know. and there was one point where i was playing "some gave all" and it was interrupted with some bomb blasts outside of kabul. one soldier stood up and said "keep going, mr. cyrus, we're used to it". i knew at that moment i was going to dedicate my music and my life to saying thanks to the troops and letting them know how much we appreciate their service and sacrifice. >> the other thing that you care very passionately about is this charity you're involved in. >> that's right. copd. and if you want to learn about copd -- >> what does it stand for? >> chronic obstructive pulmonary disease. >> and the relevance to you is? >> my grandfather had problems breathing. he died when i was 11 or 12 years old. and i've seen -- again i mention my father who hat mess so theel yo ma. but the struggle to breathe. the more i learned about copd, the more i realized that this is something that i need to learn about, that we all need to
1999 about a vietnam veteran to reeve realize 20 years later, to find myself in the middle of iraq and afghanistan and surrounded by the bravest men and women in all the world, you know. and there was one point where i was playing "some gave all" and it was interrupted with some bomb blasts outside of kabul. one soldier stood up and said "keep going, mr. cyrus, we're used to it". i knew at that moment i was going to dedicate my music and my life to saying thanks to the...
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>> corruption is happening at the highest level in the government of afghanistan. i want the international community to put more pressure on high political authorities. >> u.s. senators do too and they are pushing the head of military operations in afghanistan to keep an eye on the money. >> the karzai government and other people in afghanistan are trying to cover up the extent of the fraud and manipulation in the bank. >> they forced the fund to cutoff the credit line and the country is losing a valuable source of funding as the u.s. and allies begin a huge transition process to pull up. >> there were american funds flowing through to the contractors in many provinces of afghanistan including kandahar. >> the part of the bank that pays afghan police salaries, that's split off from the loan department and that part pathat pays police is still functioning. the imf is not restarting their donor program because there concerns there and now we hear there is a second bank, another bank under scrutiny. >> good report. thanks very much. president obama accused of using cl
>> corruption is happening at the highest level in the government of afghanistan. i want the international community to put more pressure on high political authorities. >> u.s. senators do too and they are pushing the head of military operations in afghanistan to keep an eye on the money. >> the karzai government and other people in afghanistan are trying to cover up the extent of the fraud and manipulation in the bank. >> they forced the fund to cutoff the credit line...
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they will never be a centrally governed pakistan, i mean afghanistan. afghanistan is not like iraq. give me one more second and i'll tell you what i think is going to happen in iraq. we'll probably go back to having one bloodthirsty tyrant to rule the country. that's the irony of iraq. >> happy days, wes. >> afghanistan is extraordinarily tribal. it's difficult to have a conversation about afghanistan. one story i loved was one of the things we did in afghanistan when i was working with the civil affairs team, giving out flags to children and local leaders. they would look at the flag and say what is this. you would have to explain, it's your country. there's another thing, i think you brought up a good point, joe. afghanistan is not iraq. you are right. there's a crucial player, though that factors in. that's iran. iran is not only very active and involved, but in addition to that, iran is part of the summit takes place in december between the leaders of pakistan, afghanistan and iran. iran is trying to show its hand in the larger conversation. how that plays out is going to have a
they will never be a centrally governed pakistan, i mean afghanistan. afghanistan is not like iraq. give me one more second and i'll tell you what i think is going to happen in iraq. we'll probably go back to having one bloodthirsty tyrant to rule the country. that's the irony of iraq. >> happy days, wes. >> afghanistan is extraordinarily tribal. it's difficult to have a conversation about afghanistan. one story i loved was one of the things we did in afghanistan when i was working...
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marine to run the war in afghanistan or iraq. so if this latest killing is any indication at all, he's going to have to live up to that motto. >> reporter: general john allen has no illusions about assuming command of the war in afghanistan. >> there will be tough days ahead. >> reporter: look at day one. as general david petraeus was handing over control to allen, afghan officials were preparing to bury john mohammed khan, a mentor to president hamid karzai. two men climbed his outside walls sunday negotiate and as nafted cha -- assassinated khan in his own home. >> there are those who are trying to go after president karzai and try and break him and his security situation. >> reporter: last month the intercontinental hotel was stormed in kabul and it took coalition helicopters to fly in to take them out. then a trusted guard assassinated, the president's half brother, ahmad wali karzai, and analyst jeffrey dressler says it proves both kabul and carsy are not immune and could be taliban attempts to improve their negotiating powe
marine to run the war in afghanistan or iraq. so if this latest killing is any indication at all, he's going to have to live up to that motto. >> reporter: general john allen has no illusions about assuming command of the war in afghanistan. >> there will be tough days ahead. >> reporter: look at day one. as general david petraeus was handing over control to allen, afghan officials were preparing to bury john mohammed khan, a mentor to president hamid karzai. two men climbed...
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. >>> can a day pulled the last of its troops out of afghanistan this week. that brings us to our question of the week -- how many nations still have combat troops in afghanistan as part of the international security assist tansz force? is it 6, 16, 26 or 46? stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. make sure you go to cnn.com/gps for ten more question and make sure you check out the global public square don't forget, you can also follow us on twitter and facebook. this week's "book of the week" is the "the last narco." it takes you deep into the life. now that bin laden is dead, this mexican drug kingpin is the number one most ban wanted man in the world, also on "forbes" list of the world's top billionaires. it's a fascinating look at the man. very well written. >>> we often think or politicians are always bickering. it might make you feel better to look at the case of australia, where it seems lawmakers have been literally been fighting like cats and dogs. listen to this. >> if i can finish now. >> why don't you meow when a woman does that. >> yes
. >>> can a day pulled the last of its troops out of afghanistan this week. that brings us to our question of the week -- how many nations still have combat troops in afghanistan as part of the international security assist tansz force? is it 6, 16, 26 or 46? stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. make sure you go to cnn.com/gps for ten more question and make sure you check out the global public square don't forget, you can also follow us on twitter and facebook. this week's...
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this is afghanistan. it may be a holiday, but we are in a war zone. we did get word this morning that a nato service member was missing in afghanistan. it was confirmed by afghan and british officials he was a british soldier. our producer got a text message from the taliban spokesperson who claims they did kidnap a nato service member. they claimed it was an american. they said they also killed him. >> in kabul, thank you. >>> president obama is taking a break from the debt debate to celebrate the fourth of july with military families later this evening. we are live at the white house watching that for us. what is on the agenda for us? >> hi, richard. you are right. today is all about celebrating the fourth of july. president obama and his family were at camp david over the weekend. they got back last evening. this evening, they are hosting a celebration for military members and families. it will be filled with a barbecue fourth of july celebration and also wouldn't be complete without fireworks. everyone is looking forward to that event. a break fro
this is afghanistan. it may be a holiday, but we are in a war zone. we did get word this morning that a nato service member was missing in afghanistan. it was confirmed by afghan and british officials he was a british soldier. our producer got a text message from the taliban spokesperson who claims they did kidnap a nato service member. they claimed it was an american. they said they also killed him. >> in kabul, thank you. >>> president obama is taking a break from the debt...
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money for projects in afghanistan may actually be going to insurgents. the wall street journal reports according to an audit, u.s. aid is acceptable to fraud because of limited control. the u.s. has given more than 70 being dollars to security developments in 2002. lack of oversight and the failure to take certain measurements like cash serial numbers makes payments hard to track. top xanders in afghanistan and yking cia chief general david petraeus is an optimistic assessment to the american campaign calling the afghan war fragile and reversible. petraeus says now is the time to rekindle a once, trusting relationship. >> carl, you talked about debt and the money we have been pouring into the wars over the past decade. we are spending $2 billion to $2.5 billion a week. >> it's never going to change. that's the real point. this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists?
money for projects in afghanistan may actually be going to insurgents. the wall street journal reports according to an audit, u.s. aid is acceptable to fraud because of limited control. the u.s. has given more than 70 being dollars to security developments in 2002. lack of oversight and the failure to take certain measurements like cash serial numbers makes payments hard to track. top xanders in afghanistan and yking cia chief general david petraeus is an optimistic assessment to the american...
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. >>> canada pulled the last of the combat troops out of afghanistan this week. this brings us to our question of the week. how many nations still have combat troops in afghanistan as part of the international security assistance force? is it a, 6, b, 16, c, 26 or d 46. stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. go to cnn.com/gps for ten more questions. while you're there, make sure you check out our website, the global public square where you'll find smart interviews and essays and takes by our favorite experts. you will also find all of our gps shows. if you miss one, you can click and watch. don't forget, you can follow us on twitter and facebook. this week's book of the week is the last narco. it takes you deep inside the life of a man known as elchapo now that bin laden is dead, this mexican drug king pin is the number one most wanted man in the world. he's also on forbes list of the world top billionaires, it's a fascinating look at the man, the operation and international hunt for him. very well written. and now for the last look. we often think our
. >>> canada pulled the last of the combat troops out of afghanistan this week. this brings us to our question of the week. how many nations still have combat troops in afghanistan as part of the international security assistance force? is it a, 6, b, 16, c, 26 or d 46. stay tuned and we'll tell you the correct answer. go to cnn.com/gps for ten more questions. while you're there, make sure you check out our website, the global public square where you'll find smart interviews and essays...
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. >> let's talk about afghanistan, one of the hot wars and the fact that we had the bombing, the attack against the intercontinental in kabul which is a real signal from the taliban and network they can go to a target right in the heart of the capital. if the karzai forces we've been training up can't defend -- they responded well in the emergency, we're told, but if they can't respond in kabul, isn't that a signal it's going to be a long haul, and maybe there is no legacy end of the tunnel? >> i think the reset of our afghan policy last week by the president was correct. i think it was long in coming. i was never a fan of the surge or the counterinsurgency doctrine. karzai is not a willing partner. last week this mumbai style shooting attack, it could have been worse. i would give the afghans a little credit, but it was staged by the hakani gnat wornetwork, protected group, protected by the pakistani government. that group comes over the border regularly, kills our troops and obviously now is prepared to shoot at big targets in afghanistan. it's a bad signal about how ready the pakista
. >> let's talk about afghanistan, one of the hot wars and the fact that we had the bombing, the attack against the intercontinental in kabul which is a real signal from the taliban and network they can go to a target right in the heart of the capital. if the karzai forces we've been training up can't defend -- they responded well in the emergency, we're told, but if they can't respond in kabul, isn't that a signal it's going to be a long haul, and maybe there is no legacy end of the...
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they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence on the other side of the border. the other thing they worry about is going into the tribal regions, by doing so they kick up a hornet's nest and then those people start to make attacks in places where people really care. you can liken to a very rural part in alaska, there would be a difference between something happening there and something happening in the heart of times square manhattan. that's sort of the pakistani perspective on that, wolf. >> a juror in the casey anthony breaking her silence about the verdict and the threat shs he's getting from it. and president obama's re-election campaigns in a record breaking pile of cash. we're following the money. there's bugs, leaves, lint, crud. you'll be breathing that. i do believe it's part of a locust. make sure your alignments good. your brakes are g
they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence on the other side of the border. the other thing they worry about is going into the tribal regions, by doing so they kick up a hornet's nest and then those people start to make attacks in places where people really care. you can liken to a very...
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troops in afghanistan by september 2012. hugo chavez made a surprise return home. he's been in havana cuba for several weeks after undergoing emergency surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. former secretary of state condoleezza rice attended today's unveiling ceremony and remarked on the special relationship between the u.s. and britain. margaret thatcher paid tribute. >> they've got a statute and we've got an airport. probably some other things named after him, too. thanks so much for that. the housing crisis have been so painful for so many americans it can be even harder for american families. troops ordered to relocate can face massive losses on the homes they've been forced to leave behind. >> packing up and moving out. this is montgomery's 15th time for the military. but this time it's different as he makes his move to virginia, the financial burden of his north las vegas home will be. co-ing with him. the house he purchased four years ago with much of his life savings has lost so much in value it's a struggle to figure out how best to cut his losses. >> how m
troops in afghanistan by september 2012. hugo chavez made a surprise return home. he's been in havana cuba for several weeks after undergoing emergency surgery to remove a cancerous tumor. former secretary of state condoleezza rice attended today's unveiling ceremony and remarked on the special relationship between the u.s. and britain. margaret thatcher paid tribute. >> they've got a statute and we've got an airport. probably some other things named after him, too. thanks so much for...
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let's talk about the debt ceiling, afghanistan -- >> a music guy. >> amazing. >> forget about it! >> seriously. >> i am not kidding, she's incredible. >> do you have any other news we can't use? >> no. >> let's watch that again. >> i want to hear "free man in par paris." >> she is good at the guitar. >> you started in your 20s yes. >> did you grow up like donna summer, singing in the church? >> no. my family sat around and sang. that's what we do. this is over sharing. >> no, it's not. >> who did you look op to musically? >> patty griffin. girls from austin. i love them so much. if i saw them here -- >> savannah! >> i am surprised. peel back this onion and there are so many layers. >> america already loved you, and now we don't know what to do with you're so great. >> she will be reciting poetry next hour. >> coming up, chuck schumer. >> announcer: this past year alone there's been a 67% spike in companies embracing the cloud-- big clouds, small ones, public, private, even hybrid. your data and apps must move easily and securely to reach many clouds, not just one. that's why the n
let's talk about the debt ceiling, afghanistan -- >> a music guy. >> amazing. >> forget about it! >> seriously. >> i am not kidding, she's incredible. >> do you have any other news we can't use? >> no. >> let's watch that again. >> i want to hear "free man in par paris." >> she is good at the guitar. >> you started in your 20s yes. >> did you grow up like donna summer, singing in the church? >> no. my family...
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past couple of years, the president has given on major issues and promises from gitmo to the war in afghanistan. he's given on taxes. he mised a huge opportunity in my opinion there. why can't the republicans just open their minds a little bit, give a little bit. go back on a commitment to make something happen. >> obama is wrong. >> he's not wrong. >> he had a $780 billion stimulus. the $700 billion tarp, three deficits for $1.5 trillion. we have the fete pumping in $600 billion. it hasn't worked. and so it hasn't -- if it hasn't worked, cohen calls this a cult. the cult won 63 seats. six months ago. what happened to his party. >> thankfully we didn't listen to republicans on the carr industry without the investment the american people made, we would have lost gm, chrysler, ford, and lost our ability on the global stage too. thank god we ignored the republicans when it came to saving the financial system without it. it was the right thing to do for them to pay them back. but what i want to know, ray torically, is where was the team party when bush ran the debt up. they were absent. this isn't
past couple of years, the president has given on major issues and promises from gitmo to the war in afghanistan. he's given on taxes. he mised a huge opportunity in my opinion there. why can't the republicans just open their minds a little bit, give a little bit. go back on a commitment to make something happen. >> obama is wrong. >> he's not wrong. >> he had a $780 billion stimulus. the $700 billion tarp, three deficits for $1.5 trillion. we have the fete pumping in $600...